Casino is a ghost town..hard to complete weekly's.

SmokinRoses

Member

How is a person suppose to complete the Poker weekly task when every room you go in is a ghost room, no ones there to play and if they're there it's just two maybe three people sitting..i'm not wasting 5k on three person game. It's the same with VIP room too barely anyone is there.


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

DL_David

Administrator

If you are playing on PS4 there are plenty of people playing.  It is possible that you are entering rooms that don't have many players (this is the case when a new room is spawned).  You can either wait for it to fill, or try going to friends in other poker rooms that may be more full.

SmokinRoses

Member

That's what I mean, even the rooms that my friends are in they're empty too, it's almost rare to get a full table. Most times I do reload into a new room and it's blank also or I get the same one.. I haven't been finding rooms that are full like before the update. Seems like lately everywhere you look the rooms are empty. If the PS4 servers are full i'd like to know how to get to them. lol


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

Smokescreen_5

Member

When it says play a Poker game, playing the Free poker game qualifies for that task as well.  If you have 3 people playing it, its all you need to play the game.  Wait 10 mins for nobody else to show up and bam, you still have a game.  So you then have a 33% chance of getting 5,000 free coins without a buy in.


SmokinRoses

Member

I had no idea that Free counted!


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

RIKER

Member

a feature implemented to select the numbered available servers would be nice. A Pop up tab perhaps showing the amount of available servers to enter.The number of users in those servers and an easy fast travel to the option. Information and easy access to fuller servers would be nice.


I'm #1

SmokinRoses

Member

I agree Riker!


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

crg707

Banned

Smokescreen_5 wrote

When it says play a Poker game, playing the Free poker game qualifies for that task as well.  If you have 3 people playing it, its all you need to play the game.  Wait 10 mins for nobody else to show up and bam, you still have a game.  So you then have a 33% chance of getting 5,000 free coins without a buy in.

Your wrong. Free poker does not count towards weekly tasks. Unless they have changed it for you specifically, it never has. Once upon a time you actually got RP for it . Not very much and not all top 3 got paid but, that has since been done away with as well. Actually, DL wont even acknowledge this ever happened but, whatever.

SmokinRoses

Member

Well I know for a fact that the we got RP's for free Poker...but like you said it went away. But I didn't think Free worked, thanks for the info. lol


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

GamblingGirl

Member

SmokinRoses wrote

Well I know for a fact that the we got RP's for free Poker...but like you said it went away. But I didn't think Free worked, thanks for the info. lol

I was on the casino a lot but after this last update and getting C errors, I don't have the will to play anymore. Losing my vip3 and tons of chips because of this update has kinda ruined the casino for me. I'm positive people are cheating at certain games but complaining about it has gotten zero results.

Poker is a pain in the butt and so are friend tasks. I'm never adding a friend just to do tasks because I am a loner. Shouldn't have to need people to do tasks anyway imo

The pirate clothes that were just updated are hideous, 40k rp for the coat? UGH no thanks. I want to be cute and have cute clothes, sorry! This should have been an update for Halloween.

Mostly everyone I know deleted this game after the BS last month, I still stuck around, but barely holding on. I never even got a refund for half the chips I lost due to errors and freezing. I'm disappointed that DL never even gave people an extension for vip3 or anything to compensate for the chips lost.

SmokinRoses

Member

GamblingGirl wrote
SmokinRoses wrote

Well I know for a fact that the we got RP's for free Poker...but like you said it went away. But I didn't think Free worked, thanks for the info. lol

I was on the casino a lot but after this last update and getting C errors, I don't have the will to play anymore. Losing my vip3 and tons of chips because of this update has kinda ruined the casino for me. I'm positive people are cheating at certain games but complaining about it has gotten zero results.

Poker is a pain in the butt and so are friend tasks. I'm never adding a friend just to do tasks because I am a loner. Shouldn't have to need people to do tasks anyway imo

The pirate clothes that were just updated are hideous, 40k rp for the coat? UGH no thanks. I want to be cute and have cute clothes, sorry! This should have been an update for Halloween.

Mostly everyone I know deleted this game after the BS last month, I still stuck around, but barely holding on. I never even got a refund for half the chips I lost due to errors and freezing. I'm disappointed that DL never even gave people an extension for vip3 or anything to compensate for the chips lost.

Very valid points there! I don't mind the new clothes...but for the top they gave us that jacket coat, instead of the cute one in the Crown Jewel store, you have to purchase $2.99 i think real money for. I don't really like showing skin that much...when wearing clothes, I know a lot of others who are the same way. lol So kind it's a bit of disappointment in the pack for the Tops.. Just seems like we get the round about when it comes to RP purchases and the good stuff you have to pay for. lol But eh, oh well at least it's something new and of course, it's hard to complain when it's a free game.. lol

I have friends who were hardcore Casinoer's on PSH, but they stopped when it came on the PS4 because of all the cheaters..then get called liars because supposedly there's no cheaters on the PS4 just really "lucky" players. lol But many won't look back at the Casino. lol I've had numerous refund request and no responses, or they respond and only give back a portion. I spent a lot of money on chips in the game it's almost a waste purchasing like i've said plenty of times. I spend $10 on a pack have one good streak, the next day or even that day it's all gone no luck. I know Casino's have to rig the game in some way so they can make money...Even real Casino's do it...but still this is just ridiculous, i'm almost on the verge of quitting all together because it seems they don't take us seriously.

But getting to VIP3 is crazy...I barely get to VIP 2 every month because there's barely any luck anymore, like you said especially after this update. I've seen people on Steam complaining about the same thing, and they just brush us off and say that it's our faults. lol But like I said it is what it is. lol Seems when I complain I get worse and worse with my luck LOL. I love poker, but more so on Prominence 'cause at least you get all your chips back the next day if not more. LOL

Last edited by SmokinRoses (16 Mar 2017 20:27)


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

IronClaw08

Member

What you are talking about is sort of our fault, not the developers.   Let me explain.

I believe playing in virtual casinos should give you the satisfaction of experiencing the feeling of betting an amount you would never bet in real life and winning an amount that you would never win in the real world.  That's the fun factor.  To experience something that you can't experience outside of the game is what keeps you coming back.

Then, micro-transactions came along.  That's these little items or chip purchases that you can use real money to get.  They offered them in hopes we would buy them.  AND WE DID!  So, now the makers of the game are seeing a constant flow of income.  Well, once you start that flow of income, the mentality shifts to that being the main focus of the game.  Things seem to get a little tighter, being lucky doesn't seem to come as often, things you want now cost real money.  The ball gets rolling and it just keeps getting bigger.

I hear a lot of people say nothing new to buy with RP but if you were on their end and could sell something for $2 and 200,000 people buy it, wouldn't you do that as well?  We (the consumer) started buy these micro-transactions and because of that, they are here to stay.  Sort of our fault.

Last edited by IronClaw08 (16 Mar 2017 23:50)

DL_David

Administrator

RIKER wrote

a feature implemented to select the numbered available servers would be nice. A Pop up tab perhaps showing the amount of available servers to enter.The number of users in those servers and an easy fast travel to the option. Information and easy access to fuller servers would be nice.

Agreed.  Maybe something we will implement in the future.  Unfortunately we have a long list of other great ideas already lined up so not sure where it will fit into the list.

DL_David

Administrator

SmokinRoses wrote

Well I know for a fact that the we got RP's for free Poker...but like you said it went away.

I honestly don't remember.  If it was given it must have been during the early days of PC Early Access.  It was never given in PS4.

DL_David

Administrator

IronClaw08 wrote

What you are talking about is sort of our fault, not the developers.   Let me explain.

I believe playing in virtual casinos should give you the satisfaction of experiencing the feeling of betting an amount you would never bet in real life and winning an amount that you would never win in the real world.  That's the fun factor.  To experience something that you can't experience outside of the game is what keeps you coming back.

Then, micro-transactions came along.  That's these little items or chip purchases that you can use real money to get.  They offered them in hopes we would buy them.  AND WE DID!  So, now the makers of the game are seeing a constant flow of income.  Well, once you start that flow of income, the mentality shifts to that being the main focus of the game.  Things seem to get a little tighter, being lucky doesn't seem to come as often, things you want now cost real money.  The ball gets rolling and it just keeps getting bigger.

I hear a lot of people say nothing new to buy with RP but if you were on their end and could sell something for $2 and 200,000 people buy it, wouldn't you do that as well?  We (the consumer) started buy these micro-transactions and because of that, they are here to stay.  Sort of our fault.

I appreciate the kinder words than most tend to give us.

To be clear micro-transactions were there from day 1.  They are how we keep our staff employed and continue to make updates to the game.  We hope you have fun playing and if you do then micro-transactions are your way of both having more fun and supporting the product so we can keep it fresh and make it better.

Let me restate again that the odds of winning have not changed since the release of the casino.  They don't change as you accumulate chips.  They don't change if you've played the game of a long time. They don't change. The only exception is with the initial release of a new slot machine in which case if haven't got the math right we may either be taking too much or too little house cut and will adjust to get it right. Once it is set it is never adjusted again.

As for RP vs cash clothing items -- we try to have both in every clothing pack we bring out.  Sometimes they will be more weighted toward one more than the other (in the case of the Pirate's Bounty it is slanted toward RP).  More generally we have been a bit slow on new clothing updates for the past several months because we've been building a year's worth of items for first the Lucky Fountain and then the Jackpot Pack plus Nobility rewards and rewards for the new games like Bowling. The good news is that we're now back to full speed on new clothing packs and are aiming for one pack every month or so.

SmokinRoses

Member

DL_David wrote
IronClaw08 wrote

What you are talking about is sort of our fault, not the developers.   Let me explain.

I believe playing in virtual casinos should give you the satisfaction of experiencing the feeling of betting an amount you would never bet in real life and winning an amount that you would never win in the real world.  That's the fun factor.  To experience something that you can't experience outside of the game is what keeps you coming back.

Then, micro-transactions came along.  That's these little items or chip purchases that you can use real money to get.  They offered them in hopes we would buy them.  AND WE DID!  So, now the makers of the game are seeing a constant flow of income.  Well, once you start that flow of income, the mentality shifts to that being the main focus of the game.  Things seem to get a little tighter, being lucky doesn't seem to come as often, things you want now cost real money.  The ball gets rolling and it just keeps getting bigger.

I hear a lot of people say nothing new to buy with RP but if you were on their end and could sell something for $2 and 200,000 people buy it, wouldn't you do that as well?  We (the consumer) started buy these micro-transactions and because of that, they are here to stay.  Sort of our fault.

I appreciate the kinder words than most tend to give us.

To be clear micro-transactions were there from day 1.  They are how we keep our staff employed and continue to make updates to the game.  We hope you have fun playing and if you do then micro-transactions are your way of both having more fun and supporting the product so we can keep it fresh and make it better.

Let me restate again that the odds of winning have not changed since the release of the casino.  They don't change as you accumulate chips.  They don't change if you've played the game of a long time. They don't change. The only exception is with the initial release of a new slot machine in which case if haven't got the math right we may either be taking too much or too little house cut and will adjust to get it right. Once it is set it is never adjusted again.

As for RP vs cash clothing items -- we try to have both in every clothing pack we bring out.  Sometimes they will be more weighted toward one more than the other (in the case of the Pirate's Bounty it is slanted toward RP).  More generally we have been a bit slow on new clothing updates for the past several months because we've been building a year's worth of items for first the Lucky Fountain and then the Jackpot Pack plus Nobility rewards and rewards for the new games like Bowling. The good news is that we're now back to full speed on new clothing packs and are aiming for one pack every month or so.

That's good news! It will hopefully be worth the wait. I think the Pirate pack is pretty cool and neat, after looking at it more, even if the best Top is money purchase only. I still like the RP outfit you've given us. tongue smile I may complain a lot..but still just mine and a lot of other's feel the odds of winning are different when there's an update, etc. But like I said, it is what it is. lol I don't mind buying chips to help the team out, but when you can't win especially after you just purchased the chips, it just feels like a big waste, 'cause there's no fun in not winning. lol

I really hope there is a patch coming for the Poker tables when calling for other players.. because it's bit frustrating sitting there waiting for a full table and at the last minute three people call for more players at the same time, and it automatically starts the game since it auto presses start now.

Last edited by SmokinRoses (17 Mar 2017 02:25)


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

GamblingGirl

Member

SmokinRoses wrote
DL_David wrote
IronClaw08 wrote

What you are talking about is sort of our fault, not the developers.   Let me explain.

I believe playing in virtual casinos should give you the satisfaction of experiencing the feeling of betting an amount you would never bet in real life and winning an amount that you would never win in the real world.  That's the fun factor.  To experience something that you can't experience outside of the game is what keeps you coming back.

Then, micro-transactions came along.  That's these little items or chip purchases that you can use real money to get.  They offered them in hopes we would buy them.  AND WE DID!  So, now the makers of the game are seeing a constant flow of income.  Well, once you start that flow of income, the mentality shifts to that being the main focus of the game.  Things seem to get a little tighter, being lucky doesn't seem to come as often, things you want now cost real money.  The ball gets rolling and it just keeps getting bigger.

I hear a lot of people say nothing new to buy with RP but if you were on their end and could sell something for $2 and 200,000 people buy it, wouldn't you do that as well?  We (the consumer) started buy these micro-transactions and because of that, they are here to stay.  Sort of our fault.

I appreciate the kinder words than most tend to give us.

To be clear micro-transactions were there from day 1.  They are how we keep our staff employed and continue to make updates to the game.  We hope you have fun playing and if you do then micro-transactions are your way of both having more fun and supporting the product so we can keep it fresh and make it better.

Let me restate again that the odds of winning have not changed since the release of the casino.  They don't change as you accumulate chips.  They don't change if you've played the game of a long time. They don't change. The only exception is with the initial release of a new slot machine in which case if haven't got the math right we may either be taking too much or too little house cut and will adjust to get it right. Once it is set it is never adjusted again.

As for RP vs cash clothing items -- we try to have both in every clothing pack we bring out.  Sometimes they will be more weighted toward one more than the other (in the case of the Pirate's Bounty it is slanted toward RP).  More generally we have been a bit slow on new clothing updates for the past several months because we've been building a year's worth of items for first the Lucky Fountain and then the Jackpot Pack plus Nobility rewards and rewards for the new games like Bowling. The good news is that we're now back to full speed on new clothing packs and are aiming for one pack every month or so.

That's good news! It will hopefully be worth the wait. I think the Pirate pack is pretty cool and neat, after looking at it more, even if the best Top is money purchase only. I still like the RP outfit you've given us. tongue smile I may complain a lot..but still just mine and a lot of other's feel the odds of winning are different when there's an update, etc. But like I said, it is what it is. lol I don't mind buying chips to help the team out, but when you can't win especially after you just purchased the chips, it just feels like a big waste, 'cause there's no fun in winning. lol

I really hope there is a patch coming for the Poker tables when calling for other players.. because it's bit frustrating sitting there waiting for a full table and at the last minute three people call for more players at the same time, and it automatically starts the game since it auto presses start now.

I also complain too but it's constructive criticism lol. I haven't deleted 4k and don't plan on but I have reduced down my playing time due to errors and not having vip3 anymore. I think the monthly vip3 needs to change. It's a burden, not fun at all.

SmokinRoses

Member

DL_David wrote
SmokinRoses wrote

Well I know for a fact that the we got RP's for free Poker...but like you said it went away.

I honestly don't remember.  If it was given it must have been during the early days of PC Early Access.  It was never given in PS4.

To answer that, when I started in April of last year, I won my first free Poker. It gave me 5k in chips plus is gave me 100 something RP's it wasn't much, but they still gave them out. On PS4 that is. But after since the next update came the RP's stopped with free games. Even Bingo did it for me in the beginning, then it quit after the update. lol Kind of odd that we wouldn't be given RP's for winning chips? Or is it just because it's free chips there's no RP's given?


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

SmokinRoses

Member

GamblingGirl wrote
SmokinRoses wrote
DL_David wrote

I appreciate the kinder words than most tend to give us.

To be clear micro-transactions were there from day 1.  They are how we keep our staff employed and continue to make updates to the game.  We hope you have fun playing and if you do then micro-transactions are your way of both having more fun and supporting the product so we can keep it fresh and make it better.

Let me restate again that the odds of winning have not changed since the release of the casino.  They don't change as you accumulate chips.  They don't change if you've played the game of a long time. They don't change. The only exception is with the initial release of a new slot machine in which case if haven't got the math right we may either be taking too much or too little house cut and will adjust to get it right. Once it is set it is never adjusted again.

As for RP vs cash clothing items -- we try to have both in every clothing pack we bring out.  Sometimes they will be more weighted toward one more than the other (in the case of the Pirate's Bounty it is slanted toward RP).  More generally we have been a bit slow on new clothing updates for the past several months because we've been building a year's worth of items for first the Lucky Fountain and then the Jackpot Pack plus Nobility rewards and rewards for the new games like Bowling. The good news is that we're now back to full speed on new clothing packs and are aiming for one pack every month or so.

That's good news! It will hopefully be worth the wait. I think the Pirate pack is pretty cool and neat, after looking at it more, even if the best Top is money purchase only. I still like the RP outfit you've given us. tongue smile I may complain a lot..but still just mine and a lot of other's feel the odds of winning are different when there's an update, etc. But like I said, it is what it is. lol I don't mind buying chips to help the team out, but when you can't win especially after you just purchased the chips, it just feels like a big waste, 'cause there's no fun in winning. lol

I really hope there is a patch coming for the Poker tables when calling for other players.. because it's bit frustrating sitting there waiting for a full table and at the last minute three people call for more players at the same time, and it automatically starts the game since it auto presses start now.

I also complain too but it's constructive criticism lol. I haven't deleted 4k and don't plan on but I have reduced down my playing time due to errors and not having vip3 anymore. I think the monthly vip3 needs to change. It's a burden, not fun at all.

Agreed!!


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

DL_David

Administrator

SmokinRoses wrote

Or is it just because it's free chips there's no RP's given?

Correct - you are not risking any of your chips in Free Poker which is the reason there is no RP payout.

DL_David

Administrator

And as a final point, we are aware that the most recent update (series of updates) did not go as smoothly as we would have liked. Although our current update is much more stable that the first bowling update we understand that it is not anywhere near perfect.  There are crashes and we are working to identify and correct them.  Please understand that it is very difficult for us to know exactly how the code will work with thousands of players when we can only test on a handful of development kits and clearly we missed on a number of fronts on this update.

We're hoping you will bear with us as we work through these issues.  The current update is "not so bad" but certainly it needs to be much better, and it will get better in the next update. 

On a positive note the lag is down significantly for the first time since the initial release.

SmokinRoses

Member

That's perfectly aright, I'm actually able to play and load into other rooms with out being afraid of crashing and freezing 24/7 lol. But was just curious if there was ever going to be a fix with the Poker bug with looking for players. smile And thanks for answering my Free Poker question.


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

DL_David

Administrator

SmokinRoses wrote

But was just curious if there was ever going to be a fix with the Poker bug with looking for players. smile

We don't consider it a bug. The short term solution is to make lots of friends with poker players so you can visit different poker rooms quickly.  The only other solution is, as Riker suggested, a selection menu of all available rooms but this is not currently on our road map.

SmokinRoses

Member

Oh no I know about that, I know that's not a bug. big_smile I'm meaning about when your waiting for other player's to play the Poker game with you, when you go to press that option, "looking for more players" it automatically presses the Ready button. If that makes sense.


Don't worry about failures, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try. - Anonymous

crg707

Banned

DL_David wrote

And as a final point, we are aware that the most recent update (series of updates) did not go as smoothly as we would have liked. Although our current update is much more stable that the first bowling update we understand that it is not anywhere near perfect.  There are crashes and we are working to identify and correct them.  Please understand that it is very difficult for us to know exactly how the code will work with thousands of players when we can only test on a handful of development kits and clearly we missed on a number of fronts on this update.

We're hoping you will bear with us as we work through these issues.  The current update is "not so bad" but certainly it needs to be much better, and it will get better in the next update. 

On a positive note the lag is down significantly for the first time since the initial release.

Perhaps if you would have been this openly honest when this fiasco started, people would have been a little more understanding. Its hard to be supportive when your are being blamed for someone elses faults. The lag is better though.