VIP Status .....

TSUNADE1224

Member

So if I buy the VIP package I can lose my VIP status if I dont keep spending cash to buy chips to keep gambling?

jexegug

Member

Yes u can lose it but it's easy to earn it. At the start they didn't even want people to buy vip but earned it

Mvid

Member

I wouldn't say it's that easy... it takes time and high bets.  If you are impatient, just pay for it.  It is easier to earn next months VIP when you already are a VIP (because of added RP bonuses for VIP).

Last edited by Mvid (3 Feb 2016 17:47)


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DL_Paul

Administrator

TSUNADE1224 wrote

So if I buy the VIP package I can lose my VIP status if I dont keep spending cash to buy chips to keep gambling?

As part of the Starter Pack bonuses, access to VIP is given immediately. However, as mentioned above, you must maintain that status to keep access to the room and bonuses.

TSUNADE1224

Member

I dont know who makes these decisions, but I feel that same as it was in Home if you buy VIP you should KEEP VIP! and that the only person who would lose it would be those who earned it (not bought it).  Making is to that although you can buy your VIP status you still have to put in $$ to earn VIP 2 and VIP 3 and make those the ones you lose if you dont keep earning the minimum requirement.

I also feel its bad business to keep charging your customers over and over for something they already paid for and your little chart of how VIP works may make sense to you guys but it doesn't make sense to the customer and at the end of the day if you dont listen to your customers you will find yourselves with 0 customers. 

You also got rid of tier rewards only giving those who reach tier 40 and nobility rewards and opting for putting rewards in the store... then overpricing (RP) anything worthwhile.  I understand your a business, but continuosly making things profitable on your end without thinking of the customer is not the way to do business.  Its already "for the house" as it is a casino, so do you really need to make it even more for the house? and with other options soon to make it to the PS4 how you do propose you will keep your customers happy?

TSUNADE1224

Member

jexegug wrote

Yes u can lose it but it's easy to earn it. At the start they didn't even want people to buy vip but earned it

It is not easy to earn if your a casual player which is why it is easier to buy it. You would need to max bet and WIN quite often in order to attain the 30k needed for VIP 1.  If you did basic math you would have to earn at the very least 1K RP a day in order to attain VIP status and the payouts in RP are minimal (with the exception of poker) but not everyone knows or likes to play poker and again thats if you win if you dont win your just losing chips with 0 return.

If they wanted us to earn it then they shouldn't sell it to then take it away.

Last edited by TSUNADE1224 (3 Feb 2016 22:08)

jexegug

Member

And you can only buy it once after that you can't buy it and I'm sorry I guess since I got 4m chips it easy

jexegug

Member

I already got vip 3 status and it's only been two days but I was on hot streak in poker and won 4 games in a row

TSUNADE1224

Member

jexegug wrote

I already got vip 3 status and it's only been two days but I was on hot streak in poker and won 4 games in a row

The #1 spot in VIP poker (which is what im assuming your refering to) earns 5,555 on a full table so 4 wins is 22,220 and VIP 3 is 80k RP.

Mvid

Member

I'm working toward my VIP1 for next month and not even a quarter way there yet... and jexegug got to VIP3 in 2 days?  Somethings not right.


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DL_Miguel

Member

jexegug was probably VIP3 from last month. When you qualify for VIP, it carries through til the end of NEXT month. So if you get VIP now (feb) you will be VIP will the end of March.


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TSUNADE1224

Member

DL_Miguel wrote

jexegug was probably VIP3 from last month. When you qualify for VIP, it carries through til the end of NEXT month. So if you get VIP now (feb) you will be VIP will the end of March.

Ok Miguel, I have a question for you
Im VIP 3 myself from last month .... so my question is:  Do it have to hit VIP 3 again this month in order to keep my VIP3 status?  or do I get downgraded to VIP2 if I dont meet the requirements for VIP3 which is 80k RP?

Last edited by TSUNADE1224 (4 Feb 2016 22:11)

jexegug

Member

Yeh I was already  vip3 but I'm talking about I max out vip already and yeh I play more then 4 vip but I say I won 4 games in a row and I win a lot on craps

Carla Birch

Member

TSUNADE1224 wrote
DL_Miguel wrote

jexegug was probably VIP3 from last month. When you qualify for VIP, it carries through til the end of NEXT month. So if you get VIP now (feb) you will be VIP will the end of March.

Ok Miguel, I have a question for you
Im VIP 3 myself from last month .... so my question is:  Do it have to hit VIP 3 again this month in order to keep my VIP3 status?  or do I get downgraded to VIP2 if I dont meet the requirements for VIP3 which is 80k RP?

Each month you are earning to get VIP for the following month, as if you did not have VIP. So you need to hit VIP 1 to be VIP the following month, hit VIP 2 to be VIP2 and hit VIP 3 to be VIP the following month. That's why your VIP information bars all start fully empty.

But if you hit the goals before the end of the month, you get that VIP level for the rest of that month, plus the full following month that you were earning it for.

So if you start Casino in Feb and only filled your bars up to VIP 2 by the end of the month, you be VIP 2 in March and the rest of Feb, but then if you only fill your bars to VIP 1 in March you be VIP 1 in April, But if you filled them to VIP 3 you be VIP 3 in April, if you fail to fill the bars up to VIP 1 in March, you will lose VIP in April.

So think of it as starting a fresh each month and you're playing for access for the following month.

Tubifex-90

Member

Carla Birch wrote
TSUNADE1224 wrote
DL_Miguel wrote

jexegug was probably VIP3 from last month. When you qualify for VIP, it carries through til the end of NEXT month. So if you get VIP now (feb) you will be VIP will the end of March.

Ok Miguel, I have a question for you
Im VIP 3 myself from last month .... so my question is:  Do it have to hit VIP 3 again this month in order to keep my VIP3 status?  or do I get downgraded to VIP2 if I dont meet the requirements for VIP3 which is 80k RP?

Each month you are earning to get VIP for the following month, as if you did not have VIP. So you need to hit VIP 1 to be VIP the following month, hit VIP 2 to be VIP2 and hit VIP 3 to be VIP the following month. That's why your VIP information bars all start fully empty.

But if you hit the goals before the end of the month, you get that VIP level for the rest of that month, plus the full following month that you were earning it for.

So if you start Casino in Feb and only filled your bars up to VIP 2 by the end of the month, you be VIP 2 in March and the rest of Feb, but then if you only fill your bars to VIP 1 in March you be VIP 1 in April, But if you filled them to VIP 3 you be VIP 3 in April, if you fail to fill the bars up to VIP 1 in March, you will lose VIP in April.

So think of it as starting a fresh each month and you're playing for access for the following month.

But you agree it is kinda complicated and confusing?

TSUNADE1224

Member

I do appreciate your comment Carla but my comment was directed at Miguel.  WHY? because I would prefer a representative of DL to give me the answers to this particular question.  No offense is intended  smile

I understand how VIP works my question is:  Do you go down to nothing if you dont hit VIP 3 by the end of February?  OR do you just go down to VIP2?  and if you go down to nothing then thats absurd!  Simply because you can work your way up to VIP3 but lose it all if you dont continue to earn 80k RP a month.

Example:  Lets say I dont have VIP in January and worked my way to VIP1by the end of January, I can still retain my VIP1 status in February but my progress gets wiped down to 0 (which is also absurd).  What if im 70% of the way to VIP 2?  Yeah! I can keep trying to earn my way to VIP2 in February but that 70% progress gets cleaned out to 0 and I have to start all over losing all the progress that has been made, does this sound reasonable to you?

It even says "you can continue to work your way to VIP" what it doesnt say is that you can continue to earn your way to VIP 1, 2 or 3 after we have wiped you out of all of the progress you have made and if you dont make it to VIP 1, 2 or 3 you will go back to no VIP.

If you can work your way to the next level of VIP why cant you go down progressively as well? That would make more sense then to wipe the player entirely of their VIP.  To me this is saying "if you continue to put money into the casino we will give you a chance to keep working on VIP, but if you dont buy more chips to keep working on your VIP we will strip you of your VIP.

By the time its been decided to make some changes the casino will have lost most of its customers including myself, I am honestly not gonna buy anymore VIP, chips or items and if I run out then its the end for me at the casino.

Last edited by TSUNADE1224 (5 Feb 2016 20:13)

jexegug

Member

I don't think it's hard to get vip I actually take it to easy it don't take long to get it at all and I'm talking about experience from the start. Vip  is something that is earn from gameplay and wish they would not allow player to buy it

TSUNADE1224

Member

jexegug wrote

I don't think it's hard to get vip I actually take it to easy it don't take long to get it at all and I'm talking about experience from the start. Vip  is something that is earn from gameplay and wish they would not allow player to buy it

I wouldnt really make a difference if you buy your way or buy the chips necessary to max bet on everything (or play poker) to attain the VIP status.  Thats just selfish thinking.

Last edited by TSUNADE1224 (6 Feb 2016 14:58)

DL_Miguel

Member

What Carla said is correct.

If you don't get VIP3, you will get whichever VIP tier you qualified for - 20k for VIP1, 50k for VIP2. (VIP3 is 80k). If you earn less than 20k, for the month you will lose VIP status.


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TSUNADE1224

Member

DL_Miguel wrote

What Carla said is correct.

If you don't get VIP3, you will get whichever VIP tier you qualified for - 20k for VIP1, 50k for VIP2. (VIP3 is 80k). If you earn less than 20k, for the month you will lose VIP status.

Actually I found your explanation to be the less confusing.  I understand now, but it should be also clear that all your progression to the next level will be also erased to 0.  Meaning if you are at 99% to VIP 1, 2 or 3 and the month resets you go back to 0 and would have to start all over again.

Last edited by TSUNADE1224 (8 Feb 2016 19:32)