Disappearance of names on leaderboard

sunnyside88

Member

Without getting into names, can DL confirm that users were removed from the top of some leaderboards? (I just don't want to chase the leaderboard if those bloated scores are coming back).

If this was done intentionally, then I applaud DL for addressing some of the collusion/cheating from those users that I thought had been long going on.

DL_Jared

Administrator

Some accounts that were found to have abused a recently discovered game exploit have been disqualified from this season's leaderboard.

dawsonb2010

Member

LOL  I can't get the smile off my face. Hope you all are reading this!!!

Good job Four Kings!

Last edited by dawsonb2010 (14 Aug 2020 15:07)

sunnyside88

Member

Strike-King-X wrote

Hello DL Jared, while we are on the subject of players violating the rules, many people have noticed a player in high rollers poker using vulgar and sexually explicit language in public chat to harass and bully other players. This action is in violation of the Terms of Use #2 (a ) and (b). Can you please provide me with your email address, so we can send you the multiple screen shots of the abuse. Thank you and continue to clean things up.

Also Jared, please consider removing the leaderboard jackets from previous seasons of those found to be abusing the exploits for months. The global leader from last season was found to be one of the users abusing the system with chip exploits, so it only seems fair to reward those jackets to the next users that bought chips and played fairly.

Last edited by sunnyside88 (14 Aug 2020 20:25)

DL_Jared

Administrator

As stated in our forum rules, the forum is not the place to publicly accuse players of cheating or abusive behaviour - we've deleted a couple posts veering too close to that rule. If you want to report a player, please use the in-game report system (best method) or reach out to us at techsupport@digitalleisure.com if you have other relevant information to share.

sunnyside88

Member

DL_Jared wrote

As stated in our forum rules, the forum is not the place to publicly accuse players of cheating or abusive behaviour - we've deleted a couple posts veering too close to that rule. If you want to report a player, please use the in-game report system (best method) or reach out to us at techsupport@digitalleisure.com if you have other relevant information to share.


Respectfully, many users have alerted DL through the in-game report and email about the pervasive chip exploits going on with roulette and slots, and for many months very little was done to ban accounts for those activities. If you see some of that frustration boil over into these forums, it's only because we don't feel enough is being done to police this activity.

Look at it from the business side. Why would a Four Kings user spend chips to chase leaderboard jackets if they know other users are gaming the system and colluding through chip exploits? If anything, the integrity of the competition should be DL's #1 focus to retain dedicated players legally paying for chips.

sunnyside88

Member

dawsonb2010 wrote

Most of the ones I know manipulate the system. So pathetic. But they still have their accounts so I assume their scores will be back.


No kidding. I'm already seeing players caught in this scheme are already active again in the casino. So their punishment for ripping off DL in free chips is a lousy 1-day ban?

Why aren't these users permanently banned?

Last edited by sunnyside88 (15 Aug 2020 21:05)

MrJustice

New member

They still have the stolen chips..

sunnyside88

Member

MrJustice wrote

They still have the stolen chips..

Really disappointing if true. So all the people caught cheating got:

-    Little or no user ban of any kind
-    Held on to chips they stole from DL
-    No removal of leaderboard jackets attained through cheating

Seriously, what is deterring those with stolen chips from just using them next season and rigging the leaderboard again? Why can’t DL do the right thing and permanently ban all users who have stolen chips from them?

DL_Jared

Administrator

Any players who were removed from the leaderboard also had exploited chips removed from their account as well. Review of the issue is still ongoing as we are trying to manually review the cases so we don't take legitimate chips away from players who did not abuse exploits.

Thanks for your understanding.

LV_Jag

Member

sunnyside88 wrote
dawsonb2010 wrote

Most of the ones I know manipulate the system. So pathetic. But they still have their accounts so I assume their scores will be back.


No kidding. I'm already seeing players caught in this scheme are already active again in the casino. So their punishment for ripping off DL in free chips is a lousy 1-day ban?

Why aren't these users permanently banned?

A couple of the people who were removed from the leader board came into the bingo hall a couple of days ago and tried to harass/bully/intimidate me because apparently it was MY fault that they lost their scores because I brought up the slot tournament exploit on the forums.  It was reported to DL, but those people still can freely play in the casino.  I'm sure those same girl's are reading this and will find me in bingo this week and trying to intimidate me again.  *eyeroll*

sunnyside88

Member

LV_Jag wrote

A couple of the people who were removed from the leader board came into the bingo hall a couple of days ago and tried to harass/bully/intimidate me because apparently it was MY fault that they lost their scores because I brought up the slot tournament exploit on the forums.  It was reported to DL, but those people still can freely play in the casino.  I'm sure those same girl's are reading this and will find me in bingo this week and trying to intimidate me again.  *eyeroll*

Don’t worry about it. You did the right thing. There were quite a few that reported the exploit through other channels, so you were hardly the only one that noticed.

In DL’s defense, they probably get hundreds of “I think this person is cheating!!” complaints that turn out to be completely baseless, so I understand the time and effort to hunt down actual instances of cheating can be exhausting.

It’s frustrating to hear that you are being harassed by the cheaters. They should be permanently banned, period. I understand DL may be worrying about losing some revenue if they ban cheaters, but most of those exploiting the system weren’t going to pay for chips anyway.

LV_Jag

Member

sunnyside88 wrote
LV_Jag wrote

A couple of the people who were removed from the leader board came into the bingo hall a couple of days ago and tried to harass/bully/intimidate me because apparently it was MY fault that they lost their scores because I brought up the slot tournament exploit on the forums.  It was reported to DL, but those people still can freely play in the casino.  I'm sure those same girl's are reading this and will find me in bingo this week and trying to intimidate me again.  *eyeroll*

Don’t worry about it. You did the right thing. There were quite a few that reported the exploit through other channels, so you were hardly the only one that noticed.

In DL’s defense, they probably get hundreds of “I think this person is cheating!!” complaints that turn out to be completely baseless, so I understand the time and effort to hunt down actual instances of cheating can be exhausting.

It’s frustrating to hear that you are being harassed by the cheaters. They should be permanently banned, period. I understand DL may be worrying about losing some revenue if they ban cheaters, but most of those exploiting the system weren’t going to pay for chips anyway.

Oh, they definitely didn't get to me.  I just felt so bad for them.  Acting like 14 year old girls, ganging up on one person, thinking they're super cool.  It's even funnier that it involves a fake casino, with fake chips/money, etc.  As if a leaderboard jacket actually means something in real life.

Here's my stance, all I did was report the slot tournament issue.  Hoping it would be fixed by the next tournament.  It was fixed.  I had absolutely no idea that also included taking people off the leaderboards for other exploits.  I pay zero attention to leaderboards.  I just don't play enough to even make it in the top 100 in Bingo.

DL really should have banned all those people permanently.  Who cares if they lost a little bit of revenue?  I'd gladly buy a few jackpot packs over the coming months if I knew DL actually took this kind of stuff seriously.

LV_Jag

Member

LOL, I have another loser messaging me now in bingo asking who I am shagging at DL.   This is comedic gold.  They were cheating and got busted... but no, it must be because I'm sleeping with a DL employee.  LOL

DL_Jared

Administrator

As always, please continue to report these instances as they occur and, if necessary, the block function is also available if you'd simply rather not deal with a particular player.

stormystarlight

New member

I have also noticed this evening that a certain someone won 3 bingo games in an hour when they left that seat quickly someone else got her seat and ended up winning the bingo game just think it's weird how 1 person can win 3 games of bingo in an hour and if she hadn't lost her seat she would have won the other game as well seems very suspicious to me that 1 person can win so many bingo games in a short space of time?

LV_Jag

Member

stormystarlight wrote

I have also noticed this evening that a certain someone won 3 bingo games in an hour when they left that seat quickly someone else got her seat and ended up winning the bingo game just think it's weird how 1 person can win 3 games of bingo in an hour and if she hadn't lost her seat she would have won the other game as well seems very suspicious to me that 1 person can win so many bingo games in a short space of time?

Oh, this is one of the many children who have been harassing me in bingo.  It must be upsetting to see me win a few games of bingo when I rarely win.  It doesn't help you, or your friend's cases, coming on this forum to harass me too.

I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with seats.  I'm glad you were keeping track where I was sitting and what I was doing, because I couldn't even say where I was when I won.  <3

sunnyside88

Member

LV_Jag wrote

DL really should have banned all those people permanently.  Who cares if they lost a little bit of revenue?  I'd gladly buy a few jackpot packs over the coming months if I knew DL actually took this kind of stuff seriously.

This is actually a really great idea. I'm willing to chip in a couple hundred bucks on extra chips if DL can confirm that all chip exploiters have been permanently banned.

I encourage other honest players to chime in and pledge the same commitment.

LV_Jag

Member

sunnyside88 wrote
LV_Jag wrote

DL really should have banned all those people permanently.  Who cares if they lost a little bit of revenue?  I'd gladly buy a few jackpot packs over the coming months if I knew DL actually took this kind of stuff seriously.

This is actually a really great idea. I'm willing to chip in a couple hundred bucks on extra chips if DL can confirm that all chip exploiters have been permanently banned.

I encourage other honest players to chime in and pledge the same commitment.

All I'll say is, I'll be buying the jackpot chip pack for Sept-Nov.  Probably even December at this rate.  wink

stormystarlight

New member

LV_Jag wrote
stormystarlight wrote

I have also noticed this evening that a certain someone won 3 bingo games in an hour when they left that seat quickly someone else got her seat and ended up winning the bingo game just think it's weird how 1 person can win 3 games of bingo in an hour and if she hadn't lost her seat she would have won the other game as well seems very suspicious to me that 1 person can win so many bingo games in a short space of time?

Oh, this is one of the many children who have been harassing me in bingo.  It must be upsetting to see me win a few games of bingo when I rarely win.  It doesn't help you, or your friend's cases, coming on this forum to harass me too.

I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with seats.  I'm glad you were keeping track where I was sitting and what I was doing, because I couldn't even say where I was when I won.  <3


Not everything is about you did I mention your name? no was I even on about you? no look what ever happens between us on the game stays on the game dont need to drag it into the forum like you are doing. I'm only in bingo for the tasks and I notice that the same people win more often than others. Just a coincidence it happened to you before I posted but like I said not everything is about you.

DL_Paul

Administrator

Alright - I'm closing this thread. It's been dealt with and now naturally devolving.