Buying chips makes the pay rates worse ? Slots are rigged ?

riosanity

New member

Hey guys,

I buy chips 3 to 5 times every month as i like to play slots on max bet
I almost never win and many times the 50k chips i buy to enjoy some time are spent without even a big win or a bonus round in less than 10 minutes.
So basically i pay the developers every month 15 to 25 euros ( i am not a rich guy to buy more expensive chip packs) for the last 5 years or more.
But it does not seem for them to be enough to let me play and enjoy the game having chips for at least some weeks.
Also 20 euros every month are not enough to get to to VIP 2 ? Come on guys...
Every time i managed to get above 1 million chips i would loose it all in the next 2-3 days (in every game of the casino not just slots) with horrible pay rates
I trying to win the progressive jackpot since they put it but i keep loosing all my chips on every attempt i make.
Do not get me wrong the game at the first years that was out behaved much better and developers seemed to at least respect the people who bought chips.
Now days the game always stresses me and makes me angry because of its overall game behavior.
Black jack is a joke as you can never win.
Same goes for War.
But the worse by far are slots that almost every time after playing for a while seem to get "stuck" and do not even pay the bet on 20 hits or more.
Yesterday on the progressive jackpot slot i played more than 300 rounds and i had just 1 bonus round that payed not even1 big win inside!
Its a game to play and have fun right ?
Because most times it feels like a real casino with worse pay rates and rigged games that you cant win real money.

LV_Jag

Member

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.

riosanity

New member

LV_Jag wrote

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.


I do not expect to win every time of course, or to win the big jackpot just because i chase it.
I expect to win sometimes though when i pay real money but not even this happens anymore.
This supposed to be a game and i think it should at least behave like a game.

ChocolateCity

New member

riosanity wrote
LV_Jag wrote

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.


I do not expect to win every time of course, or to win the big jackpot just because i chase it.
I expect to win sometimes though when i pay real money but not even this happens anymore.
This supposed to be a game and i think it should at least behave like a game.

I agree with you Riosanity

riosanity

New member

I hoped that something might change for better after the last 4 Kings update so i decided to give it a chance.
So i bought 2 times chips this month and tried not to play too much slots that almost always leave me out of chips.
Yesterday i had 200k chips after completing my daily tasks and winning a VIP poker game.
I sit on the progressive slot to play some rounds (the bonus was around 6 millions)
So once again from 200k chips i went to zero without even 1 bonus round and not even 1 big win!
I lost 200k in 20 minutes while just a few times the machine payed me the actual bet or a bit more.
But not even 1 big win or a bonus in so many rounds ?  Seems like a joke.. but unfortunately its true..
Looks like pay rates are much worse than an actual real online casino and the game is getting worse overtime instead of better.
4 Kings has to realize that we cant spend so much money buying chips in a game that you cant actually win real money..
If they do not fix this im not willing to give them any more of my money again and i will delete the game.
I had enough of this after 5 years...

kissy___

New member

riosanity wrote

Hey guys,

I buy chips 3 to 5 times every month as i like to play slots on max bet
I almost never win and many times the 50k chips i buy to enjoy some time are spent without even a big win or a bonus round in less than 10 minutes.
So basically i pay the developers every month 15 to 25 euros ( i am not a rich guy to buy more expensive chip packs) for the last 5 years or more.
But it does not seem for them to be enough to let me play and enjoy the game having chips for at least some weeks.
Also 20 euros every month are not enough to get to to VIP 2 ? Come on guys...
Every time i managed to get above 1 million chips i would loose it all in the next 2-3 days (in every game of the casino not just slots) with horrible pay rates
I trying to win the progressive jackpot since they put it but i keep loosing all my chips on every attempt i make.
Do not get me wrong the game at the first years that was out behaved much better and developers seemed to at least respect the people who bought chips.
Now days the game always stresses me and makes me angry because of its overall game behavior.
Black jack is a joke as you can never win.
Same goes for War.
But the worse by far are slots that almost every time after playing for a while seem to get "stuck" and do not even pay the bet on 20 hits or more.
Yesterday on the progressive jackpot slot i played more than 300 rounds and i had just 1 bonus round that payed not even1 big win inside!
Its a game to play and have fun right ?
Because most times it feels like a real casino with worse pay rates and rigged games that you cant win real money.

Don't ever buy chips again, the game is a very simple game, no extra's, no fun, only losing, very slow changing game rooms, naah, i've had it with this game, i bought chips but now i want my money back because this is not a real casino, they don't pay out, so one could expect to win something because this is a game and to be honest these stealing dogs are offering a game which brings no fun, you are paying to have fun, this is throwing money away.

Last edited by kissy___ (14 Oct 2020 00:46)

LV_Jag

Member

kissy___ wrote
LV_Jag wrote

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.


Shut the f... up about a real casino, this game don't pay out, so don't even talk about that, this is a game being offered and one could expect to have some fun playing since one puts in real money, these people are frauds and thiefs, no fun to be had, this is pure foolishness, and one could call this a scam, a rippoff !
And with this covid sh.t going on people are gonna play more often, and there these dogs are taking adventage of poor people in need of fun.

Aww, someone's angry.

Four Kings works like a real casino.  Get over it.  Don't like it, don't play.

DL_Jared

Administrator

Buying chips does not affect the random behaviour of any games in the casino (positively or negatively). All players of course have the same chances to win.

GamblingGirl

Member

DL_Jared wrote

Buying chips does not affect the random behaviour of any games in the casino (positively or negatively). All players of course have the same chances to win.


I don't for one second believe that. If you ever go to bingo and see the same person win every second game while you never win, day after day for years, you realize, not all people have the same odds.

DL_Paul

Administrator

It's honestly illogical to believe otherwise. The games play themselves out and the odds are always on the houses side. Why would be bother messing with what built Vegas? Again, the game is a gambling simulation for entertainment.

Charlie Mac

Member

Just wow. The audacity to put yourselves up there with Vegas? Please. A Vegas algorithm would not have me play 18 rounds of Blackjack in a row and lose or push ALL of them on a minimum bet. Gimme a break. Your games on some SPECIAL shit. You know, people would respect you guys more if you weren't so arrogant and lied so much.


“Trust but, verify”

DL_Paul

Administrator

Again, it's a simulation for entertainment. If you are not having fun, there are many other free to play games on the PlayStation Store. We have been nothing but honest with everyone since day one. The game is not rigged. The game does not change odds based on your bet, purchase or who you are playing with. The game is designed as a social experience where you can play for free with friends.

GamblingGirl

Member

DL_Paul wrote

Again, it's a simulation for entertainment. If you are not having fun, there are many other free to play games on the PlayStation Store. We have been nothing but honest with everyone since day one. The game is not rigged. The game does not change odds based on your bet, purchase or who you are playing with. The game is designed as a social experience where you can play for free with friends.


There is no way a random win in bingo ends up being the same person 20 times a day when I can't get a win, ever. I've been on here years. It's impossible. I can spend 200k in bingo and never win. You guys still refuse to accept there is something fundamentally wrong with the pay outs and winners chosen in bingo.

GamblingGirl

Member

Remember, I'm the one who told you guys people were boosting free bingo too and you guys denied there was anything shady going on at first too. I showed you didn't I.

GamblingGirl

Member

DL_Paul wrote

Again, it's a simulation for entertainment. If you are not having fun, there are many other free to play games on the PlayStation Store. We have been nothing but honest with everyone since day one. The game is not rigged. The game does not change odds based on your bet, purchase or who you are playing with. The game is designed as a social experience where you can play for free with friends.


Also, this game may be free but to be entertained on here and not run out of chips is very costly. You can't do anything with friends when you have no money. That's why there are so many dozens of troll accounts on 4k harassing people, because of boredom and lack of chips.

Ollie2709

New member

Comparing yourselves to real life casinos and Vegas lol, if that the case then give us option to cash in our chips for cash at same rate.

Ollie2709

New member

Slots are well rigged for the payers. Max bet over 300 spins until got bonus then didn't clear 30.000, that's enough for 10 more spins. You think that's fair dl. Don't give me the garbage about not messing with the slots recently. Also why not make progressive jackpot on slot go more frequently instead of letting it build to over 20 million and letting just 1 person take it all. Try and bring the enjoyment back into this please.

Ollie2709

New member

New low. About 150 spins to finally get a bonus, only to get 6.300 in chips. Shocking pay rates at moment. Think I'm done with this bs

Supernova

Member

LV_Jag wrote

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.

NerfThisBabe always pops into kiss DL,s butt cheeks !!

Eagle Nation

New member

Supernova wrote
LV_Jag wrote

Just because you spend real money in the game, it doesn't give you a guarantee to win every single game you play.  You could spend $1k of your real money and never win a big jackpot.  Just like you could go to a real life casino, spend your life savings, and never win a jackpot.  It's gambling.

NerfThisBabe always pops into kiss DL,s butt cheeks !!

Haha, lol - yesssssssss

Astral

New member

Pourquoi nous faire gagner autant de jetons pour tout reprendre par la suite? Et puis c'est seulement mon avis. Vous savez c'est facile, ils vous suffit simplement et honnêtement c'est ce que la plupart des jeux font, faire gagner un grand nombre de personnes et laisser les autres dans le caca, ruiner une majorité de personnes c'est souvent cool pour vous, puisque après certaines personnes mettent du pognons pour des jetons, mais je ne suis dans ce genre la,  mais dans tous les cas je vais tout simplement supprimer le jeux parce que je ne tiens pas à ce que en jeu soit disant amusant et détente qui est pour moi le pire, m'ennuie. Et puis aussi je ne vois pas comment ça pourrait être amusant de jouer avec des amis aux machines à sous, fin c'est solo ça. Et dans le même cas c'est le poker, jouer toute la partie avec un adversaire qui se couche tout le temps pour que en suite ce soit lui qui gagne, je suis désolé mais ça n'a aucun sens, ça m'arrive souvent en plus. Il y a encore plein d'autres choses à dire mais ça ne sert à rien car ce n'est pas le seul jeu, et puis on ne peut pas dire que 4Kings soit nul, juste un peu chiant, parfois beaucoup